Mad Irishman

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  Angela Montgomery's son speaks out after mother found guilty of rape

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.wsmv.com/story/28534980/son-speaks-out-after-mother-found-guilty-of-rape.

  please see the video at the above link .

  son speaks out after mother found guilty of rape.

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  This woman needs to go to jail for a lonnnnnnng time!
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  Do JW Children Still Call Adults "Aunt" and "Uncle"?

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when i was young we were taught to refer to other adult jws as aunt or uncle.. was this also the case in other countries and does it still happen?.

  was it just a custom or has the literature ever commented on it?.

  thanks.

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  Never heard of this in America.
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  Inactive ones are not JWs

  by gone for good in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  years ago, the insinuation was often presented, that those who were inactive were actually not witnesses at all.

  the point being made was that ''...winesses is a verb, not a noun...''.

  i know there were published assertions to this end in the older books and magazines, with possibly even quotes from the likes of rutherford or knorr ,.

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  For a while now they have said over and over that inactive ones and those who have left the JW's are all still sheep and are still considered brothers and sisters. They've said this ad nauseam for many years.

  They don't count inactive ones as being an active witness in their numbers each year, but in talks and the Watchtower they have said they are still considered sheep, only lost sheep.
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  Attitudes of WT Society Leaders Towards " Rights " of Child Abuse Victims and Elders

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  these excerpts i'm sharing with you are from the july 1st, 1989 letter from the wt society to the elders and it gives outsiders a good idea of the attitude of the wt society leaders towards child abuse victims and even towards their own appointed elders.

  and it shows wt society is first, foremost, and mainly concerned about financial fallout from potential lawsuits.

  one short quote was used from this letter on the abc news nightline report about candace conti - but what i'm going to share with you will be other excerpts from that same letter that are just as, or even more revealing.

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  I actually think what they wrote was solid legal advice.
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  A possible way to beat the GB at their own game.

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know confessing to the eldubs is a bunch of crap.

  seriously, once you do it, you are marked.

  unless you kiss ass like a true believer for the rest of your days in the cult, forget moving up the ladder.

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  Mad Irishman

  When I went to the elders in the past everyone was kind to me and I did not feeling like anyone looked down on me. I was shocked. I thought I was going to get blasted and people would treat me different. Nobody did. But that was just my experience.
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  Recent Birth Experience

  by lambsbottom in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i'm completely flabergasted at what happened with a couple in my old congregation recently.

  they are still active.

  the guy messages me that they had their baby and will be at a local hospital for the next couple days.

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  Mad Irishman

  People are responsible for their own decisions and welfare in these type of situations. I've never heard of elders being part of child birth pre-natal care. It would never have occurred to me to have them involved and I can't imagine 99.9 percent of people wanting them involved.

  And my aunt was in labor for 48 hours. Can't imagine that.
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  Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?

  by yogosans14 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  is good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.

  btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.

  i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..

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  My opinion is this: people should do what makes them happy. Others who criticize that are not really being fair.

  I used to tell my girlfriend who became Born Again. If you believe in God and religion then at the very minimum one of us is probably wrong.

  Go with the one you truly believe. Ignore the other white noise.
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  why report more partakers?

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of all the threads here about the number of partakers increasing, i don't recall theories as to why they report this.

  they could stop reporting numbers altogether or lie.

  instead they say, in essence, "our teachings about end times and heavenly hope are still wrong"..

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  I know for a fact that the GB does not care for the increase in people partaking. The mere fact they still report it I can't see as something critical about them when it's not something they really want. It's rather embarrassing to them, because I think most JW's think a lot of people who are now partaking are just mentally unbalanced. I know a few and they simply have mental issues and never partook until old age. That just doesn't add up no matter how you look at it.
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  [REPOST] Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to Family and Friends

  by AMNESIANO in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  (originally posted march, 2014)anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.

  by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".

  nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the lord's evening meal.. you hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine witness" deserving of jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.

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  People go for their families. It's rather silly to think every ex-witness or fader all has to be on the same plain of consciousness and if they are not there is something wrong with them. Every person has to live their life that best suits them. You can't ask people to leave the borg and then tell them, well you now have to exist in a mini-borg or there's something wrong with you or you're not doing the right thing.

  Let everyone make their own decisions.
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  Current U.S Federal Judge is a Jehovah Witness... How does this guy not get forced to quit his job and not get in trouble?

  by paulmolark in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  current u.s. federal judge is one of jehovah's witnesses - see more at: http://www.jw-archive.org/post/114109639783/current-u-s-federal-judge-is-one-of-jehovahs#sthash.pz6qywnk.dpuf.

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  Mad Irishman

  I can't think of any scriptural grounds for someone not to be a judge. This would be a conscience matter. There are cases of witnesses still being police officers, too, even if it is not very common.

  There are witnesses who own guns to hunt as well, although it's not common in the mainstream.

  And you can't cherry pick out cases this guy may have presided over to somehow question his who he is. People's lives are not perfect yet somehow we act like all witnesses have to live only one type of life and if they are not perfect they are hypocrites. I personally am a work in progress and view everyone else that way too. I see ex-witnesses sometimes are as judgmental as witnesses and many times look for things to be wrong, because they want it to be that way.

  None of us know this guy personally. There are enough bad people that we don’t have to make EVERYONE bad because of our emotional response to every witness.